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MAGICAL SPELL FOR MICE
interview by Jack Pleasant


It was mice that Doreen Valiente wanted initially it talk about when I went down to Brighton to discuss her latest book on Wicca*.
There I was in the kitchen with the famous witch who had been initiated by Gerald Gardner and later became High Priestess of his coven in the New Forest, and as she kindly made me a cup of tea all she wanted to discuss was rodents! There was a magical connection though.
'Unlike a lot of women I'm not afraid of mice,' she told me. 'In fact, I quite like them.  But the house had become over-run with them. It was very unhealthy, especially when they got into the larder.  'I didn't want to harm them, so I decided to carry out a wiccan ritual simply banishing them from my house. It was very successful. They disappeared overnight. A few days later though an official from the local council called and asked me if we had mice.
'When I told him that I didn't, he said ‘Well, that’s surprising, the house next door is full of them.’ I was rather embarrassed. My spell had simply driven all my mice into my unfortunate neighbour’s home. If I ever use the spell again I’ll have to aim it at sending the mice much further away'

Doreen, of course, was a close friend of Gerald Gardner who is generally regarded as the founder of modern witchcraft. He initiated her into the Craft and for a while she was High Priestess of his coven. But, she told me, she had been into magic long before that. At only 13, in fact, she revealed, she cast a spell on a woman who was being nasty to her mother who was working as a
housekeeper, using some strands of the woman's hair. The spell worked. The woman unexpectedly left, but when she excitedly revealed to her mother what she had done she was far from happy. Doreen was sent to a Catholic school.  She left when she was fifteen.

She had been married and living near the New Forest when she heard of Gerald Gardner’s coven there and wrote a letter expressing her interest to Cecil Williamson who was opening a witchcraft museum on the Isle of Man. He passed it on to Gerald Gardner who eventually initiated her into the craft.

'I can see him now,' she recalled, 'Standing by the altar in that candle-lit room. He was tall, stark naked, with wild white hair, a sun-tanned body which bore tattoos and a heavy bronze bracelet. In one hand he brandished a sword and in the other his hand-written Book of Shadows from which he read the ritual by which I was formally made a witch.
'An odd thing happened as I stripped off my clothes for the ritual.  Some instinct told me to keep on the amber necklace that I was wearing. I found subsequently that this was the correct wear for a witch priestess, a fact quite unknown to me at the time. I wondered if I’d done something like that in a past life, perhaps in Ancient Egypt.

Gardner, she told me, usually gave a copy of one of his books about witchcraft to anyone wishing to become a witch. He told her that he did so to see what effect his description of the initiation ceremony had upon them. If they were upset by the ritual nudity and flagellation involved, matters would proceed no further.

'This gives a lie to the frequently heard allegation that people, especially young women,  were ‘lured’ into witchcraft without realising what they were getting into,' she maintained.' In Gerald Gardner’s case this was certainly not the case'

Although she spoke well of Gardner and accepted that he had brought thousands of new converts into the ancient Craft, she did admit that she felt to some extent he was a bit of a faker. He claimed his rituals were hundreds of years old, but she maintained many he had simply made up himself, or taken them from modern sources, such as the works of Aleister Crowley.
'Moreover,' she said, 'I recognised in one of his chants an adaptation of one of the poems of Rudyard Kipling that had been a favourite of mine since childhood. Once I mentioned this he seemed none too pleased'

I asked her how Gardner would have reacted to the increasing number of gay witches’ covens, especially in Australia and America. Traditional witchcraft is based, of course, on the reaction between male and female creating a power for magical ends. But Doreen Valiente seemed, very tolerant of them.
'It’s all down to motives,’ she insisted. If they're into witchcraft for the right reasons and not just as an excuse for sexual activities there's no reason why they shouldn't practise the craft and achieve success'.  As long as, of course, that they are kind to mice!
(*The Rebirth of Witchcraft - Robert Hale - 1989)

It has been my privilege over the years, says Jack Pleasant, as a journalist and paranormal researcher, to have met and discussed Wicca with some of the leading practitioners of the Craft. In particular, he recalls, 'the late, delightful Doreen Valiente, and Alex Sanders of whom I became very fond and cherished as a friend.  This is one of his stories written for an American magazine and based on an interview with Doreen Valiente, in 1989.